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He Built a $300,000 Business in 1 Year With Video Editing

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ClipCut: I dropped the price, 7k, and he was like, “the fastest yes I got in my life.” And it was disgusting.

ClipCut: It was like, “7k per month, USD?” Well damn, okay, I’m about to sh*t my pants right now, right?

ClipCut: That was the first taste of like, what good content could really do for you and your business.

Andrew: How did you get so many views?

ClipCut: I don’t know.

ClipCut: You just have to beat luck, and volume is the only way to beat luck.

ClipCut: So if I were starting over again, which is kind of like what I’m doing right now…

Andrew: Today, I’m speaking with Sky Tan of ClipCut Agency.

Andrew: We’re going to figure out how he makes $25,000 a month with video editing all in the span of one year.

Andrew: Enjoy the video.

Andrew: Sky

ClipCut: Andrew

Andrew: Thanks for coming on.

ClipCut: Thanks for having me.

Andrew: I’m very excited to dive deep into your business Um, but yeah, so I mean tell me about business first. What do you do?

ClipCut: Yeah, so basically, um To keep it really simple. We have a content agency. So think about like your social media marketing agencies, right?

ClipCut: Basically normally they would you know, uh The client would pay whatever amount per month to run ads.

ClipCut: We just do the same thing for content and specifically editing instead.

ClipCut: So I would say most of our service delivery is in the editing side of things.

ClipCut: So that would be 70 to 80% of service delivery and then 20 to 30% would be content consulting.

ClipCut: So content agency, specifically editing.

Andrew: What are the types of clients that usually needs this service?

ClipCut: You know, that’s a really good question.

ClipCut: And I would say it’s like, honestly, we’ve had such a big variety of clients.

ClipCut: So like, we have a dog trainer, like a dog trainer.

ClipCut: One of our other clients is one of your favorite podcasts, Diary of a CEO, and so obviously, they have a ton of content that we can repurpose and stuff like that.

ClipCut: We worked with like a couple other names before, but then we also have a couple other clients who are kind of on the smaller side.

ClipCut: That’s when our content consultant comes in.

ClipCut: They haven’t found their formats, they haven’t found their strategy, and that’s when we’ll come in and kind of just basically tell them what we’ve seen works for our clients and just do the same thing for them.

Andrew: What made you want to get into it?

Andrew: What’s the early chapters of this?

ClipCut: It was by choice obviously, because everything is by choice. But it wasn’t by choice, I had the intention of doing this from the very start. So do you want me to give you a breakdown of how everything happened?

Andrew: Yeah, I guess how long have you been doing it?

ClipCut: I’ve been doing it for around a year now.

Andrew: Wow, around a year.

Andrew: Okay, so pretty new I guess. And you’re pretty successful already.

Andrew: You’re doing pretty well

ClipCut: Not bad

Andrew: You’re being humble here

Andrew: What were you doing a year before?

ClipCut: Yeah, so

Andrew: Wlead up to it?

ClipCut: You had your own podcast previous to this.

Andrew: Yeah

ClipCut: And so back before that I was I had a brick-and-mortar basketball training service. Yeah. Yeah, and so basically I would train high school kids. And that was that was fun while it lasted but honestly, I just found that to be extremely tiring. I don’t know what it is, bro It’s just like cuz you’re standing around the entire day you’re playing defense and stuff like that. So it’s just very tiring and I guess like I enjoy entrepreneurship and I don’t think that would have helped me Kind of take the next step. Next step within entrepreneurship because it’s just hard to scale something like that.

Andrew: So then You just like saw like editing agency or like I guess what was that?

ClipCut: Yeah, so let me let me tell you the story about how that occurred.

Andrew: You could have done many other things.

ClipCut: Exactly

Andrew: Why was it like editing?

ClipCut: 100% 100% This has a theme in my life where it’s like I don’t really make choices to start things things just kind of come. But basically what happened was I was doing content for my basketball training business, right?

ClipCut: I like yeah, 20k followers.

ClipCut: It was alright.

ClipCut: It was doing it was decent.

ClipCut: Well, I was averaging like 50,000 views.

ClipCut: It’s not bad.

ClipCut: And basically, one of my buddies was editing for me and he was I was also training him for basketball, right?

ClipCut: So we kind of exchange services, he would train for free, he would edit my videos, and I would just post them right?

ClipCut: One day, I was scrolling through Instagram, and I saw these like before and after editing video, right?

ClipCut: And so for short form content, right?

ClipCut: And basically, I was like, hey, you know what, why not just start doing these videos?

ClipCut: It seems like it’s popping off.

ClipCut: And I was like, we have nothing better to do with our lives.

ClipCut: So he did that, right?

ClipCut: First video, took like a week to make for him.

ClipCut: First video, 40K views.

ClipCut: I was like, okay, that’s not bad.

Andrew: 40K?

ClipCut: 40K.

Andrew: Wow, okay.

ClipCut: So it wasn’t anything crazy, but it’s like– That’s pretty good as a first video.

ClipCut: Yeah, yeah.

ClipCut: And I was like, okay, you know what?

ClipCut: Why not just do a couple more of these?

ClipCut: It’s like, we don’t really know what’s going for us.

ClipCut: Why not just give it a try, right?

ClipCut: Did a couple more of these, right?

ClipCut: Started averaging 60K, then he started averaging 100K.

ClipCut: Then started averaging 200K, 400K.

ClipCut: And then there was like a stint where he was like, he was getting like, he wasn’t averaging like 700K, but like he would have million view videos, 2 million view videos in these 500K, like that realm.

Andrew: Pretty frequent, millions.

ClipCut: So that’s like, I would classify that as like a booming format, or just going viral.

ClipCut: And I was like, yo, we’re getting a ton of traction.

ClipCut: And then eventually, people started DMing us.

ClipCut: And I was like, oh, that’s really weird.

ClipCut: It’s like, okay, I never really intended to get clients with this.

ClipCut: And then we had a couple guys DM us, and then I had no clue about which direction we were gonna go.

ClipCut: I had no clue what marketing was.

ClipCut: I had no clue what sales was and everything.

ClipCut: I had no clue how to run an online business, right?

ClipCut: One guy DM’d us and he was a real estate guy from Texas.

Andrew: Cool.

ClipCut: Right, and so he was like, “Yo, we really like your videos, let’s jump on a call.” Right, and we did it.

ClipCut: And he was like, we jumped on a call and basically I spent probably two days just researching everything I could find about sales scripts, sales, techniques and stuff like that.

ClipCut: I put a really bad script together, I jumped on the call and I had my first call, which is like discovery, meaning I was like, “Hey, what are you looking for?” It’s a consultation.

Andrew: Sure.

ClipCut: Right, second call is the pitch call, Like you’re okay. Okay. So from the first call is I, this is why I figured out what you wanted. Second call, um, this is what I’m going to give you in exchange for money. Right.

ClipCut: In between our first call and our second call, I was talking to another buddy that we’ve met online and he was kind of more in the space. And so I was asking him, Hey, what should we charge for the services?

ClipCut: And it was like, Oh yeah, bro, you can charge 10 to 15 K per month.

ClipCut: Easily. I’m just like, okay, you got to chill. I was like, okay, let’s wind that back back a little bit. Let’s let’s say seven K, uh, even seven K I was like nervous as hell to say that got on a call.

ClipCut: I ran him through exactly what we could do for him. 30 videos a month.

ClipCut: this is the style that we can go for.

ClipCut: This format’s popping, it’s gonna do really well for your real estate video, so it makes sense for you to invest into this.

ClipCut: I dropped the price, 7K, and he was like, “Fastest yes I got in my life.” And it was disgusting.

ClipCut: It was like, 7K per month, USD, for 30 videos?

ClipCut: I don’t know what that is, but that was disgusting.

ClipCut: I was just, like, after the call, I was ecstatic.

Andrew: As your first client.

ClipCut: Yes, my first client.

ClipCut: And so that was the first taste of, like, what good content and, like, what attention could really do for you and your business.

ClipCut: You can charge higher prices, you get a fuck ton of people doing inbounds and stuff like that.

ClipCut: And so like when people think content is this like thing, it’s like they always look at it from the from the aspect of like a content creator, right?

ClipCut: It’s like they have millions of followers, but the only way they can monetize is through sponsorships.

ClipCut: But absolutely not.

Andrew: Ad revenue or whatever.

Andrew: Yeah.

ClipCut: No, absolutely not.

ClipCut: I think that’s a it’s a great way to market and it allows you to charge premium prices and allows you to get like a lot of inbound flow and you can always direct them towards other things that they can purchase.

ClipCut: It doesn’t always have to be clothing.

ClipCut: It can always be services.

Andrew: But how did you get so many views?

ClipCut: I don’t know.

ClipCut: See, that’s the thing.

ClipCut: That’s the thing.

ClipCut: It’s like I had no idea what we were doing.

ClipCut: We were just able to get a shit ton of views because we literally just copied what somebody else was doing.

ClipCut: And then I thought my buddy was doing a little bit better job, so he just did it.

Andrew: So it was just copying what worked and doing it a bit better.

ClipCut: Yeah.

ClipCut: So I guess basically we were just using his skill set of editing and then just putting it to work short form video where nobody was doing at the time.

ClipCut: And then it just filled a gap in the market and I guess it just fucking blew up.

Andrew: What were your biggest problems?

Andrew: Was it recording?

ClipCut: Yeah.

ClipCut: Hardest part because it’s like we hire overseas, right?

ClipCut: We hire overseas.

Andrew: Okay.

ClipCut: And so I think a lot of people I think it’s if you guys have the ability to I think it’s great because you are really changing somebody’s life.

ClipCut: Like we made we made someone the Pakistan like a millionaire and he was so happy.

Andrew: A millionaire.

Andrew: In like Pakistan currency?

ClipCut: Yeah, it his currency.

ClipCut: But he made a million dollars that month for his currency.

ClipCut: And so he was he was balling right?

ClipCut: So it’s like we hire overseas basically and it’s it’s hard to find good talent.

ClipCut: Now, albeit though, funnily enough, North American talent isn’t as good as overseas talent.

ClipCut: For whatever reason.

ClipCut: I don’t know if it’s entitlement, I don’t know if it’s skills, I don’t know what it is, alright?

ClipCut: But every single person we’ve hired, like overseas in the Philippines or Vietnam or whatever, has always been better than any North American editor we’ve tried to hire.

ClipCut: It’s crazy. I don’t know what it is.

ClipCut: They’re more disciplined, they’re more responsible, they just get more things done, they just take more initiative.

ClipCut: So it’s like, yeah, we’re hiring overseas, but it’s also because they’re objectively the better talent.

Andrew: Really?

ClipCut: Yeah, but even then, recruiting is hard.

Andrew: So you’re able to get millions of views for your clients pretty much, right?

Andrew: Do you have like a formula down or like, can you tell me what, how are you able to get millions of views for these clients?

ClipCut: Yeah. So like I said before, right, we’re primarily editing.

ClipCut: We’re like on the content side, we do help, but most of the time, uh, at least for our strategy, it’s just slower, consistent growth, rather than like one super viral video. Uh, but like, I’m just gonna focus on our editing clients for now, cause I think that’s probably the most applicable.

ClipCut: I think content is 90% pre-production or production itself.

ClipCut: So everything from the ideation, scripting, macro strategy, to filming, to delivery, all that kind of stuff, that all that pre-production and production stuff, that makes up 90% of how well your content does.

ClipCut: And I would say the editing is really only the last 10% piece of it.

Andrew: Okay.

ClipCut: And that’s the part that we focus on.

ClipCut: Everything else we kind of leave up to the client, at least for the clients, for our bigger clients.

Andrew: What you’re saying is you can’t take credit for the millions of views you get?

ClipCut: I can’t take credit, I can’t take credit.

ClipCut: I would say like, whatever they have, we can squeeze out as much juice from it as possible.

ClipCut: ‘Cause we’ve had videos where we’ve done again, that we’ve re-edited it, that have performed better than the original video.

ClipCut: But I wouldn’t say with good conscience that I was responsible for those millions of views.

ClipCut: ‘Cause that’s not fair.

Andrew: That makes sense, that makes sense.

ClipCut: Yeah, the client’s put in a lot of work.

ClipCut: They have their own strategies that they’ve been thinking about a long time.

ClipCut: Like, a lot of it goes to them.

ClipCut: And we’re really only here to help them finish the race.

Andrew: We have to go into the financials quickly right now.

Andrew: Because how many clients did you have?

Andrew: And then what was the monthly revenue?

ClipCut: We’re not doing the hottest.

ClipCut: I think we’re around like 25, 30.

ClipCut: We have around like six clients right now.

ClipCut: So we’re kind of just like maintaining right now.

Andrew: What are the startup costs like?

ClipCut: Zero.

Andrew: Zero?

ClipCut: You get CapCut, right?

ClipCut: You steal a couple of clips from the internet, you start editing, boom!

ClipCut: And then you get like millions of followers.

ClipCut: It’s that easy.

Andrew: Everything’s free.

ClipCut: Everything’s free, everything’s free.

ClipCut: But yeah, I think a lot of people think that you need a lot of money to start stuff.

ClipCut: Like if you’re brick and mortar, like the taco business that you were interviewing, 100%.

ClipCut: It’s not a business, dude.

ClipCut: You need zero money to start.

ClipCut: I think that’s the beauty.

Andrew: Wow, okay.

Andrew: And then what are, I guess, expenses like monthly?

ClipCut: Expenses, like majority is payroll.

ClipCut: So half of it just goes to payroll, paying the editors.

Andrew: Got you, okay.

ClipCut: Software.

Andrew: How many editors do you have right now?

ClipCut: Yeah.

ClipCut: Five, we have five editors.

Andrew: Wow, so basically margin-wise for this type of business, 50%?

ClipCut: Yeah, 50/40, 50/40.

ClipCut: And then we put a lot of software.

ClipCut: We have probably another five, 10% goes to software.

Andrew: What’s the tech stack here?

ClipCut: The tech stack, okay, we got Slack, Slack kills us every single month.

ClipCut: Notion, Notion’s fine.

ClipCut: Go high level, we use that to manage our CRM.

ClipCut: Notion is for like, is our Google Docs, ’cause I can’t stand Google Docs, I don’t understand.

ClipCut: If you use Google Docs and you run a business, I’m sorry, I can’t do it.

ClipCut: Zoom, Calendly, it’s just a bunch of small software.

ClipCut: But they add up, they add up.

Andrew: So what are the costs like for the software?

ClipCut: Jeez, probably 500 to 1,000 for no reason.

Andrew: But it’s worth it, obviously.

ClipCut: It’s worth it, of course, yeah, 100%.

Andrew: What I’m curious is, what do you think made you guys stand out?

Andrew: Because there’s so many editing agencies.

Andrew: Is it really because you were able to get those millions of views for your own content?

ClipCut: You can either build a brand around a really amazing product, or make it seem like you have a really amazing product.

ClipCut: I don’t think either of those is wrong, ’cause if you think about a brand who has really good marketing.

ClipCut: Oh, Athletic Greens, right?

ClipCut: Athletic Greens, AG1, right?

ClipCut: So I’ve heard a lot of bad reviews about AG1, I haven’t personally tried it, but I’m just gonna assume that they’re not like the best product in the world, right?

ClipCut: But their marketing is amazing.

ClipCut: They’re on Andrew Heberman’s podcast.

ClipCut: They run a lot of ads.

ClipCut: They have a great marketing team.

ClipCut: Is their product the best in the world?

ClipCut: Probably not.

Andrew: I heard a quote the other day.

Andrew: It’s like, it’s not about who’s the best anymore.

Andrew: It’s about who’s the most well-known.

ClipCut: Yeah, I would say that’s a huge part of it.

ClipCut: ‘Cause there’s tons of creators out there who are amazing filmmakers, but they’re not getting the traction that they deserve because for whatever reason, the market’s just not vibing with it, right?

ClipCut: And so it’s like, would I be able to say we have the best product in the entire editing space?

ClipCut: Absolutely not.

ClipCut: We’ve only been around for a year.

ClipCut: There’s probably someone who’s been doing it for five, ten years who are way better than us and actually know way more about us.

ClipCut: But I think we had this leverage point, which is the marketing that did so well for us to be able to get these clients.

Andrew: How do you go from freelance editor to agency owner?

Andrew: That’s the question.

ClipCut: I think if you’re asking me, I’m not the best person to ask because I was very lucky to be put in a position where I never need to worry about that.

ClipCut: I had way more attention than I could possibly ever want.

ClipCut: And I’d pay more attention to that, had the skill set to get done.

ClipCut: But if you were asking me how I would do it, knowing what I know now to do it, I’m not sure if this will actually work, but this is just based on what I agree.

Andrew: Yeah, your experience.

ClipCut: Yeah, this is just based on what I know.

ClipCut: If I were in your shoes, I would basically make content right away.

ClipCut: So you have to market, you have to advertise yourself as much as possible and put yourself out there.

ClipCut: So that comes in the form of content.

ClipCut: You probably wouldn’t want to run ads too early ’cause you really don’t have any sort of sustainable income.

ClipCut: But a lot of outreach and a lot of content.

ClipCut: I would say that’s probably the two biggest things.

ClipCut: Outreach is just literally hitting up people that you think would benefit from your services on Instagram, either directly or you comment on their stuff and your objective is to make the best comment as possible.

ClipCut: And Hermosy has this rule of 100 where it’s basically you send 100 DMs, or you send 100 comments or DMs every single day, and over a year, someone’s gonna say yes.

ClipCut: And it’s through that, you just need reps.

ClipCut: For lack of better terms, I got lucky.

ClipCut: You just have to beat luck.

ClipCut: And volume is the only way to beat luck.

ClipCut: So if I were starting over again, which is kind of like what I’m doing right now, I would focus on that.

ClipCut: Just content as much as possible.

ClipCut: Someone’s gonna blow up and DMs as much as possible.

ClipCut: Someone’s gonna say yes.

Andrew: Right, create your own luck.

ClipCut: Create your own luck, exactly, yeah.

Andrew: Was there at any point throughout that, I guess, year where you felt like, holy shit, this is too much.

Andrew: Like, I can’t.

ClipCut: I think, honestly, you get really uncomfortable as an entrepreneur.

ClipCut: And I don’t know.

ClipCut: So I think there was two stages of entrepreneurship I faced when I was doing this business, right?

ClipCut: One where it was overwhelmed and then one’s underwhelmed, which is what I’m experiencing right now.

Andrew: Underwhelmed?

ClipCut: Yeah, so let’s talk about both, right?

ClipCut: Overwhelmed is like when the world gives you so much that you have to be able to take it on.

Andrew: Yeah.

ClipCut: And that is being able to ground yourself and like just have a really good support system, I would say, which I didn’t necessarily have.

ClipCut: And so– No, you didn’t.

ClipCut: Yeah, and so like that part is extremely tough in that you need to be able to weather a lot of stronger emotions.

Andrew: What was the underwhelmed portion that you mentioned?

ClipCut: Yeah, 100%.

ClipCut: So that was the overwhelmed part.

ClipCut: The world was giving so much me and then the underwhelm portion was just like that was when we were lacking attention, right?

ClipCut: So basically my partner and I went separate ways. Due to just technicalities. It just didn’t it just didn’t make sense anymore and so during that period of time, I didn’t really have the the leverage of having like infinite leads anymore, right?

ClipCut: And so at that point in time, everything was a lot slower we were maintaining with clients and growth just feels slower. And during that period of time which kind of is in the season. I’m in right now There’s a lot of boredom. There’s a lot of like what am I doing with my life?

ClipCut: There’s a lot of like hopelessness and so like if you think about it now that I reflect on it It’s like this very big seesaw of like ton of motions a lot of great things happening a lot of stuff going on and then a Boom and we’re dropping down to like, okay, we’re chillin. There’s not enough to do.

ClipCut: And it’s like I feel like both extremes kind of eat away at me. I’m not as productive when I’m at either extreme. I think it’s kind of in the middle there’s some growth. But it’s not like just dead and so you have to continually reinstill meaning into the little tasks that you do throughout the day and that is extremely hard.

ClipCut: So that’s been something I’ve been trying to figure out

Andrew: Trying to find meaning in the work?

ClipCut: Yeah, trying to find meaning in the work because the agency isn’t really something I chose to do from the start as well.

Andrew: Yeah

ClipCut: I think yeah, so I’m still trying to figure it out And but I think at the end of the day as long as I’m doing the thing, that’s what matters the most.

ClipCut: The thing is getting done.

ClipCut: I’ll figure out the motion stuff as I go on.

Andrew: Where do you see this agency in five years?

ClipCut: Not running it. That’s where I see it in the next…

Andrew: Selling it?

ClipCut: Ah, well, if it makes sense or whatever.

ClipCut: But I would rather just have… give me a couple five figures a month, that’d be pretty nice.

ClipCut: And I can use it to fund whatever business I have in the future.

Andrew: You don’t want to run it?

ClipCut: No, absolutely not. I don’t want to run an agency in the future.

ClipCut: Now, I want to really like to hone my skills and make sure it’s good, but after I finish a chapter, I never want to write an agency in my life again.

ClipCut: Moving on to other things.

Andrew: Would you recommend someone to start an agency?

Andrew: You know, someone’s watching this, they’re curious to start.

ClipCut: I mean, it depends on what you’re doing, right?

ClipCut: I think an agency, you’re just using it as a tool to learn business at the end of the day because the agency is just offering services to other businesses.

ClipCut: Basically that’s what they do.

ClipCut: It can be email, it can be content, it can be ads, it can be PR, it can be a myriad of things, but agency is just your entryway to learn business and the skill that accompanies that business.

ClipCut: For me, I’m learning content, which I think is going to be a huge play in the next five to ten years because everyone their grandma is starting.

ClipCut: You’re starting content.

ClipCut: The big long-term play, cash flow, just get recurring revenue so I can use it to fund other businesses and just learn content.

ClipCut: ‘Cause if I’m able to learn content and actually see what is good, that’s going to be the most important thing ever.

ClipCut: ‘Cause I think it’s AI-proof.

ClipCut: I think it’s actually facilitated by AI because you can replace workers, but you can’t replace what works in content.

Andrew: The skill of capturing attention.

ClipCut: Yeah, the skill of capturing attention.

ClipCut: ‘Cause guess what?

ClipCut: If everyone has access to AI for content, then that means there’s a new level above that.

ClipCut: Because everyone has access to something, there’s always a level above that that people don’t have access to and that’s where you’ve got to be at.

ClipCut: So I think if I just know content, what actually works, what doesn’t work, and just really focus on that, I can do whatever I want with it.

Andrew: So there’s a, I do a tradition, speaking of Diary of a CEO, but I kind of copied it from where I’ll ask business owners a question, you know, what they wanna ask the next business owner.

Andrew: So this is the question that the previous business owner wanted to ask you.

Andrew: So I’ll play that question for you first.

Clear Complexions Co: The next question that I will ask the next business owner is since I’m in the skincare and the wellness and the health industry, is what do you do to take care of yourself and to make sure that you’re keeping sane within your business?

Andrew: Are you sane right now?

ClipCut: No, no, no.

ClipCut: That’s probably the worst person to ask.

ClipCut: I’m sorry to ever ask that question ’cause I am the worst person to answer this.

ClipCut: So I think there’s two ways you can approach it and I’ve seen both ways work.

ClipCut: I don’t know which one’s working.

ClipCut: It’s genuinely something I’m trying to figure out and I think it’s something you’re gonna have, I think it’s something you’re gonna continue to figure out for the rest of your entrepreneurial career if you’re growing, right?

ClipCut: If you’re staying the same, if you’re just trying to maintain growth, like maintain a certain amount of revenue, I think you won’t need to do this.

ClipCut: But if you’re growing, things are gonna be uncomfortable, you’re gonna be able to manage it.

ClipCut: So I think one realm is ignore your feelings, fuck the plan, or fuck your feelings, follow the plan.

Andrew: Brutal.

ClipCut: Yeah, that’s the first realm, right?

ClipCut: And I think that works, I think that works.

ClipCut: And then the second thing that I think works really well is also just, it’s gonna seem really corny, but it’s just like understanding what it is that you want and then really trying to go for that.

ClipCut: So what does it mean if I put it into actionable terms?

ClipCut: I think it means whenever you’re feeling bad about something or you don’t wanna do something, you don’t do something that distracts you, and then you try to go back to the reason why you’re doing everything in the first place, and you keep asking yourself until you feel the way that you want to in order to get that thing done.

ClipCut: So you either change your emotion or you say fuck the emotion.

ClipCut: And I think either way works, it just depends on what kind of mental state you’re in, and genuinely it’s something I’m still trying to figure out.

Andrew: What question do you have for the next business owner?

ClipCut: If the world was a perfect place for entrepreneurs, what do you think it would look like?

Andrew: Never heard that question before.

Andrew: There you go, there you have it.

ClipCut: Cool.

Andrew: Thank you, Sky.

ClipCut: Andrew, thanks for having me.

ClipCut: It’s been a pleasure.

Andrew: This is Sky Tan of ClipCut Agency, right?

Andrew: The founder, co-founder.

Andrew: They edit videos, edit high quality videos, so if you need editing, this is the guy to hire.

Andrew: They got top-notch talent.

Andrew: We talked about the recruitment process earlier. Yeah, we’ll link stuff below. You know what to do.

Andrew: Hit the like button. Subscribe. Subscribe. Subscribe. You know, if you enjoy this, comment down below any questions you have for Sky, for me, or whatever you want to comment.

Andrew: And I already said subscribe, but subscribe because we got more videos coming soon.

Andrew: Yeah. See you in the next one.

ClipCut: Peace.

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ClipCut: I dropped the price, 7k, and he was like, “the fastest yes I got in my life.” And it was disgusting.

ClipCut: It was like, “7k per month, USD?” Well damn, okay, I’m about to sh*t my pants right now, right?

ClipCut: That was the first taste of like, what good content could really do for you and your business.

Andrew: How did you get so many views?

ClipCut: I don’t know.

ClipCut: You just have to beat luck, and volume is the only way to beat luck.

ClipCut: So if I were starting over again, which is kind of like what I’m doing right now…

Andrew: Today, I’m speaking with Sky Tan of ClipCut Agency.

Andrew: We’re going to figure out how he makes $25,000 a month with video editing all in the span of one year.

Andrew: Enjoy the video.

Andrew: Sky

ClipCut: Andrew

Andrew: Thanks for coming on.

ClipCut: Thanks for having me.

Andrew: I’m very excited to dive deep into your business Um, but yeah, so I mean tell me about business first. What do you do?

ClipCut: Yeah, so basically, um To keep it really simple. We have a content agency. So think about like your social media marketing agencies, right?

ClipCut: Basically normally they would you know, uh The client would pay whatever amount per month to run ads.

ClipCut: We just do the same thing for content and specifically editing instead.

ClipCut: So I would say most of our service delivery is in the editing side of things.

ClipCut: So that would be 70 to 80% of service delivery and then 20 to 30% would be content consulting.

ClipCut: So content agency, specifically editing.

Andrew: What are the types of clients that usually needs this service?

ClipCut: You know, that’s a really good question.

ClipCut: And I would say it’s like, honestly, we’ve had such a big variety of clients.

ClipCut: So like, we have a dog trainer, like a dog trainer.

ClipCut: One of our other clients is one of your favorite podcasts, Diary of a CEO, and so obviously, they have a ton of content that we can repurpose and stuff like that.

ClipCut: We worked with like a couple other names before, but then we also have a couple other clients who are kind of on the smaller side.

ClipCut: That’s when our content consultant comes in.

ClipCut: They haven’t found their formats, they haven’t found their strategy, and that’s when we’ll come in and kind of just basically tell them what we’ve seen works for our clients and just do the same thing for them.

Andrew: What made you want to get into it?

Andrew: What’s the early chapters of this?

ClipCut: It was by choice obviously, because everything is by choice. But it wasn’t by choice, I had the intention of doing this from the very start. So do you want me to give you a breakdown of how everything happened?

Andrew: Yeah, I guess how long have you been doing it?

ClipCut: I’ve been doing it for around a year now.

Andrew: Wow, around a year.

Andrew: Okay, so pretty new I guess. And you’re pretty successful already.

Andrew: You’re doing pretty well

ClipCut: Not bad

Andrew: You’re being humble here

Andrew: What were you doing a year before?

ClipCut: Yeah, so

Andrew: Wlead up to it?

ClipCut: You had your own podcast previous to this.

Andrew: Yeah

ClipCut: And so back before that I was I had a brick-and-mortar basketball training service. Yeah. Yeah, and so basically I would train high school kids. And that was that was fun while it lasted but honestly, I just found that to be extremely tiring. I don’t know what it is, bro It’s just like cuz you’re standing around the entire day you’re playing defense and stuff like that. So it’s just very tiring and I guess like I enjoy entrepreneurship and I don’t think that would have helped me Kind of take the next step. Next step within entrepreneurship because it’s just hard to scale something like that.

Andrew: So then You just like saw like editing agency or like I guess what was that?

ClipCut: Yeah, so let me let me tell you the story about how that occurred.

Andrew: You could have done many other things.

ClipCut: Exactly

Andrew: Why was it like editing?

ClipCut: 100% 100% This has a theme in my life where it’s like I don’t really make choices to start things things just kind of come. But basically what happened was I was doing content for my basketball training business, right?

ClipCut: I like yeah, 20k followers.

ClipCut: It was alright.

ClipCut: It was doing it was decent.

ClipCut: Well, I was averaging like 50,000 views.

ClipCut: It’s not bad.

ClipCut: And basically, one of my buddies was editing for me and he was I was also training him for basketball, right?

ClipCut: So we kind of exchange services, he would train for free, he would edit my videos, and I would just post them right?

ClipCut: One day, I was scrolling through Instagram, and I saw these like before and after editing video, right?

ClipCut: And so for short form content, right?

ClipCut: And basically, I was like, hey, you know what, why not just start doing these videos?

ClipCut: It seems like it’s popping off.

ClipCut: And I was like, we have nothing better to do with our lives.

ClipCut: So he did that, right?

ClipCut: First video, took like a week to make for him.

ClipCut: First video, 40K views.

ClipCut: I was like, okay, that’s not bad.

Andrew: 40K?

ClipCut: 40K.

Andrew: Wow, okay.

ClipCut: So it wasn’t anything crazy, but it’s like– That’s pretty good as a first video.

ClipCut: Yeah, yeah.

ClipCut: And I was like, okay, you know what?

ClipCut: Why not just do a couple more of these?

ClipCut: It’s like, we don’t really know what’s going for us.

ClipCut: Why not just give it a try, right?

ClipCut: Did a couple more of these, right?

ClipCut: Started averaging 60K, then he started averaging 100K.

ClipCut: Then started averaging 200K, 400K.

ClipCut: And then there was like a stint where he was like, he was getting like, he wasn’t averaging like 700K, but like he would have million view videos, 2 million view videos in these 500K, like that realm.

Andrew: Pretty frequent, millions.

ClipCut: So that’s like, I would classify that as like a booming format, or just going viral.

ClipCut: And I was like, yo, we’re getting a ton of traction.

ClipCut: And then eventually, people started DMing us.

ClipCut: And I was like, oh, that’s really weird.

ClipCut: It’s like, okay, I never really intended to get clients with this.

ClipCut: And then we had a couple guys DM us, and then I had no clue about which direction we were gonna go.

ClipCut: I had no clue what marketing was.

ClipCut: I had no clue what sales was and everything.

ClipCut: I had no clue how to run an online business, right?

ClipCut: One guy DM’d us and he was a real estate guy from Texas.

Andrew: Cool.

ClipCut: Right, and so he was like, “Yo, we really like your videos, let’s jump on a call.” Right, and we did it.

ClipCut: And he was like, we jumped on a call and basically I spent probably two days just researching everything I could find about sales scripts, sales, techniques and stuff like that.

ClipCut: I put a really bad script together, I jumped on the call and I had my first call, which is like discovery, meaning I was like, “Hey, what are you looking for?” It’s a consultation.

Andrew: Sure.

ClipCut: Right, second call is the pitch call, Like you’re okay. Okay. So from the first call is I, this is why I figured out what you wanted. Second call, um, this is what I’m going to give you in exchange for money. Right.

ClipCut: In between our first call and our second call, I was talking to another buddy that we’ve met online and he was kind of more in the space. And so I was asking him, Hey, what should we charge for the services?

ClipCut: And it was like, Oh yeah, bro, you can charge 10 to 15 K per month.

ClipCut: Easily. I’m just like, okay, you got to chill. I was like, okay, let’s wind that back back a little bit. Let’s let’s say seven K, uh, even seven K I was like nervous as hell to say that got on a call.

ClipCut: I ran him through exactly what we could do for him. 30 videos a month.

ClipCut: this is the style that we can go for.

ClipCut: This format’s popping, it’s gonna do really well for your real estate video, so it makes sense for you to invest into this.

ClipCut: I dropped the price, 7K, and he was like, “Fastest yes I got in my life.” And it was disgusting.

ClipCut: It was like, 7K per month, USD, for 30 videos?

ClipCut: I don’t know what that is, but that was disgusting.

ClipCut: I was just, like, after the call, I was ecstatic.

Andrew: As your first client.

ClipCut: Yes, my first client.

ClipCut: And so that was the first taste of, like, what good content and, like, what attention could really do for you and your business.

ClipCut: You can charge higher prices, you get a fuck ton of people doing inbounds and stuff like that.

ClipCut: And so like when people think content is this like thing, it’s like they always look at it from the from the aspect of like a content creator, right?

ClipCut: It’s like they have millions of followers, but the only way they can monetize is through sponsorships.

ClipCut: But absolutely not.

Andrew: Ad revenue or whatever.

Andrew: Yeah.

ClipCut: No, absolutely not.

ClipCut: I think that’s a it’s a great way to market and it allows you to charge premium prices and allows you to get like a lot of inbound flow and you can always direct them towards other things that they can purchase.

ClipCut: It doesn’t always have to be clothing.

ClipCut: It can always be services.

Andrew: But how did you get so many views?

ClipCut: I don’t know.

ClipCut: See, that’s the thing.

ClipCut: That’s the thing.

ClipCut: It’s like I had no idea what we were doing.

ClipCut: We were just able to get a shit ton of views because we literally just copied what somebody else was doing.

ClipCut: And then I thought my buddy was doing a little bit better job, so he just did it.

Andrew: So it was just copying what worked and doing it a bit better.

ClipCut: Yeah.

ClipCut: So I guess basically we were just using his skill set of editing and then just putting it to work short form video where nobody was doing at the time.

ClipCut: And then it just filled a gap in the market and I guess it just fucking blew up.

Andrew: What were your biggest problems?

Andrew: Was it recording?

ClipCut: Yeah.

ClipCut: Hardest part because it’s like we hire overseas, right?

ClipCut: We hire overseas.

Andrew: Okay.

ClipCut: And so I think a lot of people I think it’s if you guys have the ability to I think it’s great because you are really changing somebody’s life.

ClipCut: Like we made we made someone the Pakistan like a millionaire and he was so happy.

Andrew: A millionaire.

Andrew: In like Pakistan currency?

ClipCut: Yeah, it his currency.

ClipCut: But he made a million dollars that month for his currency.

ClipCut: And so he was he was balling right?

ClipCut: So it’s like we hire overseas basically and it’s it’s hard to find good talent.

ClipCut: Now, albeit though, funnily enough, North American talent isn’t as good as overseas talent.

ClipCut: For whatever reason.

ClipCut: I don’t know if it’s entitlement, I don’t know if it’s skills, I don’t know what it is, alright?

ClipCut: But every single person we’ve hired, like overseas in the Philippines or Vietnam or whatever, has always been better than any North American editor we’ve tried to hire.

ClipCut: It’s crazy. I don’t know what it is.

ClipCut: They’re more disciplined, they’re more responsible, they just get more things done, they just take more initiative.

ClipCut: So it’s like, yeah, we’re hiring overseas, but it’s also because they’re objectively the better talent.

Andrew: Really?

ClipCut: Yeah, but even then, recruiting is hard.

Andrew: So you’re able to get millions of views for your clients pretty much, right?

Andrew: Do you have like a formula down or like, can you tell me what, how are you able to get millions of views for these clients?

ClipCut: Yeah. So like I said before, right, we’re primarily editing.

ClipCut: We’re like on the content side, we do help, but most of the time, uh, at least for our strategy, it’s just slower, consistent growth, rather than like one super viral video. Uh, but like, I’m just gonna focus on our editing clients for now, cause I think that’s probably the most applicable.

ClipCut: I think content is 90% pre-production or production itself.

ClipCut: So everything from the ideation, scripting, macro strategy, to filming, to delivery, all that kind of stuff, that all that pre-production and production stuff, that makes up 90% of how well your content does.

ClipCut: And I would say the editing is really only the last 10% piece of it.

Andrew: Okay.

ClipCut: And that’s the part that we focus on.

ClipCut: Everything else we kind of leave up to the client, at least for the clients, for our bigger clients.

Andrew: What you’re saying is you can’t take credit for the millions of views you get?

ClipCut: I can’t take credit, I can’t take credit.

ClipCut: I would say like, whatever they have, we can squeeze out as much juice from it as possible.

ClipCut: ‘Cause we’ve had videos where we’ve done again, that we’ve re-edited it, that have performed better than the original video.

ClipCut: But I wouldn’t say with good conscience that I was responsible for those millions of views.

ClipCut: ‘Cause that’s not fair.

Andrew: That makes sense, that makes sense.

ClipCut: Yeah, the client’s put in a lot of work.

ClipCut: They have their own strategies that they’ve been thinking about a long time.

ClipCut: Like, a lot of it goes to them.

ClipCut: And we’re really only here to help them finish the race.

Andrew: We have to go into the financials quickly right now.

Andrew: Because how many clients did you have?

Andrew: And then what was the monthly revenue?

ClipCut: We’re not doing the hottest.

ClipCut: I think we’re around like 25, 30.

ClipCut: We have around like six clients right now.

ClipCut: So we’re kind of just like maintaining right now.

Andrew: What are the startup costs like?

ClipCut: Zero.

Andrew: Zero?

ClipCut: You get CapCut, right?

ClipCut: You steal a couple of clips from the internet, you start editing, boom!

ClipCut: And then you get like millions of followers.

ClipCut: It’s that easy.

Andrew: Everything’s free.

ClipCut: Everything’s free, everything’s free.

ClipCut: But yeah, I think a lot of people think that you need a lot of money to start stuff.

ClipCut: Like if you’re brick and mortar, like the taco business that you were interviewing, 100%.

ClipCut: It’s not a business, dude.

ClipCut: You need zero money to start.

ClipCut: I think that’s the beauty.

Andrew: Wow, okay.

Andrew: And then what are, I guess, expenses like monthly?

ClipCut: Expenses, like majority is payroll.

ClipCut: So half of it just goes to payroll, paying the editors.

Andrew: Got you, okay.

ClipCut: Software.

Andrew: How many editors do you have right now?

ClipCut: Yeah.

ClipCut: Five, we have five editors.

Andrew: Wow, so basically margin-wise for this type of business, 50%?

ClipCut: Yeah, 50/40, 50/40.

ClipCut: And then we put a lot of software.

ClipCut: We have probably another five, 10% goes to software.

Andrew: What’s the tech stack here?

ClipCut: The tech stack, okay, we got Slack, Slack kills us every single month.

ClipCut: Notion, Notion’s fine.

ClipCut: Go high level, we use that to manage our CRM.

ClipCut: Notion is for like, is our Google Docs, ’cause I can’t stand Google Docs, I don’t understand.

ClipCut: If you use Google Docs and you run a business, I’m sorry, I can’t do it.

ClipCut: Zoom, Calendly, it’s just a bunch of small software.

ClipCut: But they add up, they add up.

Andrew: So what are the costs like for the software?

ClipCut: Jeez, probably 500 to 1,000 for no reason.

Andrew: But it’s worth it, obviously.

ClipCut: It’s worth it, of course, yeah, 100%.

Andrew: What I’m curious is, what do you think made you guys stand out?

Andrew: Because there’s so many editing agencies.

Andrew: Is it really because you were able to get those millions of views for your own content?

ClipCut: You can either build a brand around a really amazing product, or make it seem like you have a really amazing product.

ClipCut: I don’t think either of those is wrong, ’cause if you think about a brand who has really good marketing.

ClipCut: Oh, Athletic Greens, right?

ClipCut: Athletic Greens, AG1, right?

ClipCut: So I’ve heard a lot of bad reviews about AG1, I haven’t personally tried it, but I’m just gonna assume that they’re not like the best product in the world, right?

ClipCut: But their marketing is amazing.

ClipCut: They’re on Andrew Heberman’s podcast.

ClipCut: They run a lot of ads.

ClipCut: They have a great marketing team.

ClipCut: Is their product the best in the world?

ClipCut: Probably not.

Andrew: I heard a quote the other day.

Andrew: It’s like, it’s not about who’s the best anymore.

Andrew: It’s about who’s the most well-known.

ClipCut: Yeah, I would say that’s a huge part of it.

ClipCut: ‘Cause there’s tons of creators out there who are amazing filmmakers, but they’re not getting the traction that they deserve because for whatever reason, the market’s just not vibing with it, right?

ClipCut: And so it’s like, would I be able to say we have the best product in the entire editing space?

ClipCut: Absolutely not.

ClipCut: We’ve only been around for a year.

ClipCut: There’s probably someone who’s been doing it for five, ten years who are way better than us and actually know way more about us.

ClipCut: But I think we had this leverage point, which is the marketing that did so well for us to be able to get these clients.

Andrew: How do you go from freelance editor to agency owner?

Andrew: That’s the question.

ClipCut: I think if you’re asking me, I’m not the best person to ask because I was very lucky to be put in a position where I never need to worry about that.

ClipCut: I had way more attention than I could possibly ever want.

ClipCut: And I’d pay more attention to that, had the skill set to get done.

ClipCut: But if you were asking me how I would do it, knowing what I know now to do it, I’m not sure if this will actually work, but this is just based on what I agree.

Andrew: Yeah, your experience.

ClipCut: Yeah, this is just based on what I know.

ClipCut: If I were in your shoes, I would basically make content right away.

ClipCut: So you have to market, you have to advertise yourself as much as possible and put yourself out there.

ClipCut: So that comes in the form of content.

ClipCut: You probably wouldn’t want to run ads too early ’cause you really don’t have any sort of sustainable income.

ClipCut: But a lot of outreach and a lot of content.

ClipCut: I would say that’s probably the two biggest things.

ClipCut: Outreach is just literally hitting up people that you think would benefit from your services on Instagram, either directly or you comment on their stuff and your objective is to make the best comment as possible.

ClipCut: And Hermosy has this rule of 100 where it’s basically you send 100 DMs, or you send 100 comments or DMs every single day, and over a year, someone’s gonna say yes.

ClipCut: And it’s through that, you just need reps.

ClipCut: For lack of better terms, I got lucky.

ClipCut: You just have to beat luck.

ClipCut: And volume is the only way to beat luck.

ClipCut: So if I were starting over again, which is kind of like what I’m doing right now, I would focus on that.

ClipCut: Just content as much as possible.

ClipCut: Someone’s gonna blow up and DMs as much as possible.

ClipCut: Someone’s gonna say yes.

Andrew: Right, create your own luck.

ClipCut: Create your own luck, exactly, yeah.

Andrew: Was there at any point throughout that, I guess, year where you felt like, holy shit, this is too much.

Andrew: Like, I can’t.

ClipCut: I think, honestly, you get really uncomfortable as an entrepreneur.

ClipCut: And I don’t know.

ClipCut: So I think there was two stages of entrepreneurship I faced when I was doing this business, right?

ClipCut: One where it was overwhelmed and then one’s underwhelmed, which is what I’m experiencing right now.

Andrew: Underwhelmed?

ClipCut: Yeah, so let’s talk about both, right?

ClipCut: Overwhelmed is like when the world gives you so much that you have to be able to take it on.

Andrew: Yeah.

ClipCut: And that is being able to ground yourself and like just have a really good support system, I would say, which I didn’t necessarily have.

ClipCut: And so– No, you didn’t.

ClipCut: Yeah, and so like that part is extremely tough in that you need to be able to weather a lot of stronger emotions.

Andrew: What was the underwhelmed portion that you mentioned?

ClipCut: Yeah, 100%.

ClipCut: So that was the overwhelmed part.

ClipCut: The world was giving so much me and then the underwhelm portion was just like that was when we were lacking attention, right?

ClipCut: So basically my partner and I went separate ways. Due to just technicalities. It just didn’t it just didn’t make sense anymore and so during that period of time, I didn’t really have the the leverage of having like infinite leads anymore, right?

ClipCut: And so at that point in time, everything was a lot slower we were maintaining with clients and growth just feels slower. And during that period of time which kind of is in the season. I’m in right now There’s a lot of boredom. There’s a lot of like what am I doing with my life?

ClipCut: There’s a lot of like hopelessness and so like if you think about it now that I reflect on it It’s like this very big seesaw of like ton of motions a lot of great things happening a lot of stuff going on and then a Boom and we’re dropping down to like, okay, we’re chillin. There’s not enough to do.

ClipCut: And it’s like I feel like both extremes kind of eat away at me. I’m not as productive when I’m at either extreme. I think it’s kind of in the middle there’s some growth. But it’s not like just dead and so you have to continually reinstill meaning into the little tasks that you do throughout the day and that is extremely hard.

ClipCut: So that’s been something I’ve been trying to figure out

Andrew: Trying to find meaning in the work?

ClipCut: Yeah, trying to find meaning in the work because the agency isn’t really something I chose to do from the start as well.

Andrew: Yeah

ClipCut: I think yeah, so I’m still trying to figure it out And but I think at the end of the day as long as I’m doing the thing, that’s what matters the most.

ClipCut: The thing is getting done.

ClipCut: I’ll figure out the motion stuff as I go on.

Andrew: Where do you see this agency in five years?

ClipCut: Not running it. That’s where I see it in the next…

Andrew: Selling it?

ClipCut: Ah, well, if it makes sense or whatever.

ClipCut: But I would rather just have… give me a couple five figures a month, that’d be pretty nice.

ClipCut: And I can use it to fund whatever business I have in the future.

Andrew: You don’t want to run it?

ClipCut: No, absolutely not. I don’t want to run an agency in the future.

ClipCut: Now, I want to really like to hone my skills and make sure it’s good, but after I finish a chapter, I never want to write an agency in my life again.

ClipCut: Moving on to other things.

Andrew: Would you recommend someone to start an agency?

Andrew: You know, someone’s watching this, they’re curious to start.

ClipCut: I mean, it depends on what you’re doing, right?

ClipCut: I think an agency, you’re just using it as a tool to learn business at the end of the day because the agency is just offering services to other businesses.

ClipCut: Basically that’s what they do.

ClipCut: It can be email, it can be content, it can be ads, it can be PR, it can be a myriad of things, but agency is just your entryway to learn business and the skill that accompanies that business.

ClipCut: For me, I’m learning content, which I think is going to be a huge play in the next five to ten years because everyone their grandma is starting.

ClipCut: You’re starting content.

ClipCut: The big long-term play, cash flow, just get recurring revenue so I can use it to fund other businesses and just learn content.

ClipCut: ‘Cause if I’m able to learn content and actually see what is good, that’s going to be the most important thing ever.

ClipCut: ‘Cause I think it’s AI-proof.

ClipCut: I think it’s actually facilitated by AI because you can replace workers, but you can’t replace what works in content.

Andrew: The skill of capturing attention.

ClipCut: Yeah, the skill of capturing attention.

ClipCut: ‘Cause guess what?

ClipCut: If everyone has access to AI for content, then that means there’s a new level above that.

ClipCut: Because everyone has access to something, there’s always a level above that that people don’t have access to and that’s where you’ve got to be at.

ClipCut: So I think if I just know content, what actually works, what doesn’t work, and just really focus on that, I can do whatever I want with it.

Andrew: So there’s a, I do a tradition, speaking of Diary of a CEO, but I kind of copied it from where I’ll ask business owners a question, you know, what they wanna ask the next business owner.

Andrew: So this is the question that the previous business owner wanted to ask you.

Andrew: So I’ll play that question for you first.

Clear Complexions Co: The next question that I will ask the next business owner is since I’m in the skincare and the wellness and the health industry, is what do you do to take care of yourself and to make sure that you’re keeping sane within your business?

Andrew: Are you sane right now?

ClipCut: No, no, no.

ClipCut: That’s probably the worst person to ask.

ClipCut: I’m sorry to ever ask that question ’cause I am the worst person to answer this.

ClipCut: So I think there’s two ways you can approach it and I’ve seen both ways work.

ClipCut: I don’t know which one’s working.

ClipCut: It’s genuinely something I’m trying to figure out and I think it’s something you’re gonna have, I think it’s something you’re gonna continue to figure out for the rest of your entrepreneurial career if you’re growing, right?

ClipCut: If you’re staying the same, if you’re just trying to maintain growth, like maintain a certain amount of revenue, I think you won’t need to do this.

ClipCut: But if you’re growing, things are gonna be uncomfortable, you’re gonna be able to manage it.

ClipCut: So I think one realm is ignore your feelings, fuck the plan, or fuck your feelings, follow the plan.

Andrew: Brutal.

ClipCut: Yeah, that’s the first realm, right?

ClipCut: And I think that works, I think that works.

ClipCut: And then the second thing that I think works really well is also just, it’s gonna seem really corny, but it’s just like understanding what it is that you want and then really trying to go for that.

ClipCut: So what does it mean if I put it into actionable terms?

ClipCut: I think it means whenever you’re feeling bad about something or you don’t wanna do something, you don’t do something that distracts you, and then you try to go back to the reason why you’re doing everything in the first place, and you keep asking yourself until you feel the way that you want to in order to get that thing done.

ClipCut: So you either change your emotion or you say fuck the emotion.

ClipCut: And I think either way works, it just depends on what kind of mental state you’re in, and genuinely it’s something I’m still trying to figure out.

Andrew: What question do you have for the next business owner?

ClipCut: If the world was a perfect place for entrepreneurs, what do you think it would look like?

Andrew: Never heard that question before.

Andrew: There you go, there you have it.

ClipCut: Cool.

Andrew: Thank you, Sky.

ClipCut: Andrew, thanks for having me.

ClipCut: It’s been a pleasure.

Andrew: This is Sky Tan of ClipCut Agency, right?

Andrew: The founder, co-founder.

Andrew: They edit videos, edit high quality videos, so if you need editing, this is the guy to hire.

Andrew: They got top-notch talent.

Andrew: We talked about the recruitment process earlier. Yeah, we’ll link stuff below. You know what to do.

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Andrew: Yeah. See you in the next one.

ClipCut: Peace.

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